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Excerpts from “THE CHRIST: A Critical Review and Analysis of the Evidences of His Existence” by John E. Remsburg


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Excerpts from “THE CHRIST: A Critical Review and Analysis of the Evidences of His Existence” by John E. Remsburg

Published 1909 by The Truth Seeker Company, New York.

 Chapter 2: Silence of Contemporary Writers.

(Note from Apetivist: There is just one contention I have with Remsburg.  The title of this chapter should have been "Contemporary Writers During and Shortly After the Time of Jesus and some additional writers that have Nothing Whatsoever To Do With the Subject.".  Nonetheless, his points are quite on spot and the fact remains; zero contemporary writers during the time that this "supposed" Jesus lived wrote a single sentence about the man.  Also, note that I place the approximate date of birth of each person and additional names the writers are known by- at the time Remsburg did not know that one writer had a different name or that writings of one was finally afterwards associated with the writing of another by historians.  I also use the term BCE instead of BC and CE instead of AD.  I get all my information for this fact checking/cross-referencing from Wikipedia, Encyclopedia Britannica, and www.attalus.org.

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The following is a list of writers who lived and wrote during the time, or within a century after the time, that Christ is said to have lived and performed his wonderful works:

Josephus (c. 37 CE), Arrian (c. 86-89 CE), Philo-Judaeus (c. 30 BCE to 50 CE) , Petronius (c. 27 CE), Seneca (c. 4 BCE), Dion Pruseus (c. 40 CE note this is the person known as the writer below mentioned “Dio Chrysostom”), Pliny the Elder (c. 23 CE also known as Gaius Plinius Secundus), Paterculus (c. 19 BCE also known as Marcus Velleius Paterculus), Suetonius (c. 69 CE also known as Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus), Appian (c. 95 CE also known as Appian of Alexandria), Juvenal (c. 1-100 CE also known as Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis), Theon of Smyrna (c. 100 CE), Martial (c. 38-41 CE also known as Marcus Valerius Martialis) , Phlegon (c. 200 AD also known as Phlegon of Tralles), Persius (c. 34 CE also known as Aulus Persius Flaccus), Pompon Mela (all that’s known is he died c. 43 CE), Plutarch (c. 46 CE also known as Lucius Mestrius Plutarchus), Quintius Curtius (c. early 1st Century and his actual known person has been posited to be unknown), Justus of Tiberius (c. 50-70 CE), Lucian (c. 125 CE also known as Lucian of Samosata), Apollonius (c. 15 CE also known as Apollonius of Tyana), Pausanias (c. 110 CE), Pliny the Younger (c. 61 CE also known as Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus), Valerius Flaccus (c. 45 AD also known as Gaius Valerius Flaccus), Tacitus (c. 56 CE also known as Publius Cornelius Tacitus), Florus Lucius (c. 70 CE), Quintilian (c. 35 AD also known as Marcus Fabius Quintilianus), Favorinus (c. 80 CE also known as Favorinus of Arelate), Lucanus ( c. 39 CE also known as Marcus Annaeus Lucanus), Phaedrus (c. 15 BCE known for Latinizing Aesop’s fables), Epictetus (c. 55 CE), Damis (1st to 2nd Century and also some doubt he may have been a real person and he may have been a creation of Philostratus c. 170 CE), Silius Italicus (c. 26 CE also known as Tiberius Catius Asconius Silius), Aulus Gellius (c.125 CE), Statius (c. 45 CE also known as Publius Papinius Statius), Columella (c. 4 CE also known as Lucius Junius Moderatus Columella), Ptolemy (c. 100 CE also known as Claudius Ptolemy), Dio Chrysostom(see Dion Pruseus above as they are the same person), Hermogones (c. 1st Century also known as Hermogenes of Tarsus) , Lysias (Who is this?  Clearly not the logographer from Greece in c. 459 BCE, otherwise I can find no other reference.  Does anyone else know who Remsburg may be referring to here?), Valerius Maximus (c. early 1st Century), Appion of Alexandria (c. 95 CE).

Enough of the writings of the authors named in the foregoing list remains to form a library.  Yet in this mass of Jewish and Pagan literature, aside from two forged passages in the works of a Jewish author, and two disputed passages in the works of Roman writers, there is to be found no mention of Jesus Christ.

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Think about it, this information was known and available to believers even in 1909.  Yet, now in The Age of Information aka The Internet and/or other forms of mass communication this is still relativity unknown and was kept from me by my Academic superiors at Liberty University.  Why?  Why wasn't this information provided for my consideration?  Why was it kept hidden or unavailable to the LU library?  Surely, if they have so much confidence in their beliefs, they would've proudly presented this information and shown why it was fallacious.  It would have been another winning blow by the marvelous minded Christian Apologists that they had on and off their site?  😒

Read the book here:  
https://archive.org/details/christcriticalre00rems/

Final Note (?): I may do follow up on other possible writers that would have been withing the time and/or vicinity of the 1st Century. I am running up against a brick wall as there were so many minor writers of the time but tracking them down is very difficult and Remsburg must have been going off of memory or some other form of list from where he derived the names of these writers.

3 comments:

  1. Why would Liberty University hide this information? Did you seriously just ask that? It's Liberty University, where the truth goes to die.

    Anyway, there's no direct evidence of Jesus, but there is circumstantial evidence that the character of Jesus in the New Testament was based in part on a real person. As Christopher Hitchens noted, certain lies in the New Testament are easier to explain if you assume the character of Jesus is at least in part based on a real person.

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    1. I take the position that if a character did exist (i.e. itinerant apocalyptic Jewish preacher) he could've existed or is an amalgamation of other characters, but certainly not a super-powered wonder worker much less a deity wearing a human body.

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    2. I asked so many questions and got hollow regurgitated answers regarding the problem of evil and also what is now known as the proble of divine hiddennness. I was so disappointed with their crappy and often deceptive answers that I was left with no choice but to seek answers elsewhere. The rest is history.

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